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  YHWH a minor pagan god: Ugaritic Texts and the Sons of El

  by DoomVoyager in

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  interesting.. here is the first thing i've found on the subject, though i haven't read much of it yet.. http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm.

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  Deuteronomy 32:7-9 Who is the Most High?

  by Steve J in

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  please excuse me if you've discussed this topic before, but as a "newbie" i haven't found anything on it as yet.. 7 remember the days of old, consider the years back from generation to generation; ask your father and he can tell you; your old men and they can say it to you.

  8 when the most high gave the nations an iheritance, when he parted the sons of adam fron one another, he proceeded to fix the boundary of the peoples with regard for the sons of israel.

  9 for jehovah's share is his people; jacob is the allotment that he inherits.

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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

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  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Put it this way DOT. I had a problem with the WT of may 1972 where it said "They will know a "prophet" was among them" and the response i got was that they didnt mean a literal prophet cause it was in quotes.....What theyve done DOat is used other words that are similar to the meaning and tried to explain it away. For instance when a false prophecy or a date was stamped that didnt come true instead of admitting mistakes they said things like "some had false expectations". Its all wordplay my friend. Its like telling part of a story and omitting somethings so you dont have to just downright lie....

  And what Heavensgate said about growth and "Gods people" growing in numbers--what did Jesus say about people performing powerful works in his name?

  So just because some organization does something powerful it does NOT mean it is from God or the "one" true organization.
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Think of it this way defender...WHay wont they let you do your own research? What is it THEY have to hide? You have already seen from their history that there has been dishonesty....is this humble? No. Humility is admitting mistakes when u make them. Have you read Steven Hassans work? He is not an apostate and this might let you look objectively at the organization without compromising you...

  when inwas young, and i didnsomething wrong i would FIRST point to my brother and say HE DID IT!! This is the tactic done by WT and then they control the information you are allowed to look at--information that may reveal anything theyve covered up or goes against what they want you to think.
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  How about the outright lie in the last brochure we studied about how We have NEVER charged people for our publications? Did you know that, in fact, they used to charge? Its off topic but absomutely untrue...
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Adding Jehovahs name to the New Testament is a big one.
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Defender: it was the kids' fault!!! They had wrong expectations :-O
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  Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

  when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

  this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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  Freud was a cocaine addict lol i didnt know he was onnthe same level as the Bible? Are you saying the men of the Bible were cracked out too?
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  Qualifications for Gods Sole Channel--interesting article from the meletivivlon site

  by Jon Preston in

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  qualifications to become gods channel of communication[this article was contributed by apollos].

  the new teaching of the appointment of the faithful and discreet slave has arguably made 1919 an even more important date to jehovahs witnesses than 1914. appendix b1 of the revised nwt bible shows a time line of the message of the bible in relation to gods rulership.

  it is of note that the official doctrine of the establishment of gods kingdom in 1914 is not even mentioned only that satan was cast down around that time.. ever since the 1919 doctrine was announced at the 2012 agm, and subsequently published in the july 15th watchtower 2013, the appointment of the slave seems to have become a much more prominent topic in our teaching, and indeed in general discussion among witnesses.. of course we should remind ourselves that this new level of interest really has nothing to do with the date, and everything to do with the nature of the appointment.

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  Thanks abiather

  Ill be sure to sign up immediately! While i respect your faith pmease save your brahma harold and kumar stuff for another thread please.
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  Atheists I have a question....and some comments on spirituality (possible ranting may follow)

  by Jon Preston in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i just thought about this because its been in the back of my mind deep in the subconscious goop where i store many a curious thing:.

  what is spirituality to an atheist?

  what is its meaning?

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  Cool Comatose! I do the same things. I find im much more spiritual with a beer in me lol and ill sit outside and look up and just wonder. Are my dreams spiritual? Theyre immaterial arent they?

  Any believers out there please feel free to add your comments please. This conversation has.......evolved some ;-)